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drummer4life006
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hand independence and Ostanatos (sp)
« Thread started on: Jul 16th, 2005, 06:44am » |
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Hey I was wondering if anyone has any hand independence techiniques and ostanatos to help my hands become more independent and such...
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James
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DrumPyrat
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Re: hand independence and Ostanatos (sp)
« Reply #1 on: Aug 13th, 2005, 4:02pm » |
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I don't know about ostinatos, but for hand independence I've always been told to do rudiment breakdowns over and over. Also, play with one hand on something that makes decent noise and the other hand on something that is pretty quiet so you can hear what you're doing. That will show you how swiss army triplets break into doubles and flam accents and flam taps break into triplet variations when you focus on hand independence. That helped me a lot with hand independence.
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Re: hand independence and Ostanatos (sp)
« Reply #2 on: Aug 13th, 2005, 7:30pm » |
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Shouldn't this be in the Technique section, anyone?
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Re: hand independence and Ostanatos (sp)
« Reply #3 on: Aug 14th, 2005, 12:39pm » |
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yeh, it should, sumone wil move it eventually
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Re: hand independence and Ostanatos (sp)
« Reply #4 on: Mar 20th, 2008, 09:56am » |
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I know I'm a little late in replying...
But if you want a GREAT reference for ostinatos and developing independence, get Chris Brien's book Progressive Rhythms.
It's going to keep you busy for YEARS, I guarantee it. Here's what it contains, going by memory as I don't have the book with me:
First off, some 16th note hand combinations, which can also be played in the feet to warm up. There's about 16 pages of these I think, and I think there's then another 16 pages of triplet hand combinations.
Then, you get 20 pages of 16th note beats, building up the complexity of bassdrum patterns. I think there's 12 or 16 beats per page, so that gives you 240-320 beats to work with!!
Then again, 20 pages of triplet beats.
Then Chris has put in I think two pages each of 16th note and triplet hand variations to play on top of the previous 20 pages of beats (assuming you'll play the 16th note combinations with the 16th note beats).
He's also put in his "Funkadiddles", which are slightly modified paradiddles - R l rlr L R l l, and variations thereof. There are also several pages of accent/double stroke developing combination exercises.
Then you get into the really good stuff for independence development! He goes through the major types of Latin grooves, and variations thereof - including clave rhythms, which are very important. Now this is where my memory of the book gets a bit fuzzier, but he also gives you "Permutations", which are patterns to play against the Ostinatos, of which he also gives you plenty to work with - both 16th note and triplet based.
I can't recommend this book enough, I believe it is a necessity in every drummer's collection.
What I'm also doing at the moment, is using the linear hand patterns in Gary Chaffee's Sticking Patterns book, to layer on top of the 16th note beats in Progressive Rhythms. So for example, I'm currently working through the beats using the pattern: "RllrLrrlRllrLrrl"
And then you can layer that on top of the beats in the book, to get things like:
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H..R..r.rr.R..r.rr.
S...ll.L..l.ll.L..l
B..BB...BB.BB.BB.B.
So make sure you get Sticking Patterns as well, I can say without a doubt that both books on their own are MUST HAVES for any drummer, but you can then combine the two and all of a sudden you've just given yourself another decade of practise material, and it's not boring either - it's challenging and fulfilling.
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